WHAT IS OVERTALLYING?
Overtallying is the process of signing up on a waiting list for a course, once no more seats are available. We will do our best to put you into the section you need because of a conflict.
HOW TO OVERTALLY FOR A CE COURSE
In all cases, students should only overtally for a course if registration has already started and no more seats are available.
- For CE 231 and 332 before Nov 12th, select: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/FQV3T9S and fill out the ONLINE overtally form. We will begin placing the top priority students into the classes in the first couple days of registration, so please fill out this form ASAP. There are no paper overtally forms for these courses.
- For CE 231, 332, 209, 264, 335 after Nov 12th and no more seats are available select http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/FQD2LHG and fill out the ONLINE overtally form. There are no paper overtally forms for these courses.
- For any CE course taught by an adjunct after no more seats are available, select http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/FQD2LHG and fill out an ONLINE overtally form. There are no paper overtally forms for these courses. You can tell if the professor is an adjunct by looking on the CE schedule in the case.
- For all other CE courses after no more seats are available, overtally directly with the faculty teaching the class.
HOW STUDENTS WILL BE PLACED INTO COURSES AFTER THEY OVERTALLY
- For CE 209, 231, 264, 332 and 335: Students will be placed into the courses based on their academic priority, which is described in the next section.
- For any CE course taught by an adjunct: Students who are in good standing will be placed into the course on a first come first served basis until the upper limit is met. This will happen just after the end of registration.
Students who are not in good standing will not be registered into the course until after grades come in and their academic contracts have been reviewed. If any seats are still remaining, they will be registered for the class then.
- For all other CE courses: Same as "for any CE course taught by an adjunct".
THE OVERTALLY POLICY FOR CE 209, 231, 264, 332 and 335
There are many more students trying to register for particular freshman and sophomore level Civil Engineering courses, than there are available seats. This occurs in these classes because some students fail and have to repeat these particular courses, probably because of the newness and challenge of these low level CE courses (relative to high school or non-engineering courses).
The eSIMS program prioritizes students with more credits (i.e., those students who have already attempted the class once) for registration. In these low level CE courses, this prioritization ends up causing some first-time students who have not taken or attempted the class before, to be unable to get into a class before it fills up with repeating students.
After hearing many grievances about this problem, in Spring 2014, the CE department implemented a registration prioritization method that is intended to be fairer for both new and repeating students. The policy reprioritizes students for enrollment, so that students who have never taken the class before and who are in good standing and have no stops on their record, are admitted first.
Top priority students: These students will be registered to the course in the first couple days of registration; it is likely that all such students will be able to get into the course.
1st: Students in good standing, with no stops on their record, and who will graduate within 2 semesters (i.e., have completed a graduation check and are registered for all other courses required for graduation).
2nd: Students in good standing, with no stops on their record, and who are taking the course for the first time.
3rd: Students in good standing, with no stops on their record, and who have never taken the class before but were on the waiting list during the previous semester.
Lower priority students: These students will be registered to the course after grades have been posted; it is likely that some seats will be left available for lower priority students.
4th: Students in good standing, with no stops on their record, and who have started the course a maximum of one time but withdrew from or got a failing grade in the course.
5th: Students in good standing, with no stops on their record, and who have withdrawn from or got a failing grade in the course more than once– the larger number of withdrawls and fails results in lower priority.
6th: New transfer students (all are in good standing by definition).
7th: All other students, once their stops have been removed and they have satisfied their academic contract, up to the maximum class size.
Other factors will also be taken into consideration when setting priority, including:
- International students' need to be registered full time
- Students on financial aid
IMPORTANT REMINDERS FOR STUDENTS PERTAINING TO OVERTALLIES
Getting onto an overtally does not guarantee that the student will get into the course!
A handful of seats will be set aside for students who are not in good academic standing (i.e., has a QPA or GPA stop, and/or is on an academic contract), since they are unable to register for classes until after registration.
It is EXTREMELY important that students:
- Overtally for classes during the registration period, as soon as the student realizes the course has no more seats available.
- Take care of any non-academic stops on their record (e.g., bursar, library) in advance of registration, so that the stops don't prevent them from being able to register in classes.
·Check their eSIMS to see if they've been registered for a class, since students will not be notified by phone or email if they have been registered for a class they were on an overtally for.
·Check their CCNY email and phone periodically, since students might need to be contacted about a question that affects their registration; If students don't respond promptly, their seat will be give to someone else at lower priority.